Broughton Island, April 2015

2 years 6 months ago - 2 years 6 months ago #301372 by mulgar
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Hello fellow divers, I'm not exactly looking for a pic rating here but these seems to be the best place to share 'dive logs' with photos/videos as far as I can tell. I barely qualify as an amateur when it comes to the images as I just use a GoPro, but I've been taking time to post-edit and learned a lot from past dives full of horrible footage.

Anyway, enough rambling, I dived over 2 days at Broughton Island a few weeks back and absolutely love it there (have been once before). Below is a link to my blog post where I have a brief write-up (with video and pictures) followed directly by the embedded youtube video for those who want to cut to the chase. Love diving at Broughton with the nurses!

www.mulgar.net/2015/05/13/diving-with-gr...at-broughton-island/

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2 years 6 months ago - 2 years 6 months ago #301436 by Murph68
Murph68 replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
If GoPro, what are your settings (if not a secret)?
Did you use GoPro Studio or something else?
What filter did you use?
Cheers
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2 years 6 months ago #301440 by mulgar
mulgar replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Happy to share all the information I can! I'll tell you as much as I can remember on the top of my head and if you have any further questions please let me know and I can check into it later.

I have a GoPro Hero 3+ Black with a Backscatter filter. A lot of the setup is included in an earlier blog post I did here: http://www.mulgar.net/2013/12/20/manly-shore-dive-testing-out-new-gopro-camera/ .

Mostly nothing has changed from that setup except before my most recent dive at Broughton I was having some issues with battery life, I'd have to be a bit selective with my shooting over a double dive as I found I always drained the battery to flat. I was deciding on getting a spare battery to swap out but instead went with the GoPro battery bac pac . I really only did this because it was the day before I was to leave and it was the only thing my local harvey norman had right before closing time! I was a bit unsure of the extra bulk it would add. In the end, I wish I had done this upgrade sooner, after a double-dive it indicated I still had around half total battery which was awesome, so now I can shoot with one less worry!

In regards to settings, I don't believe I shot anything fancy. I'm always nervous to tweak the settings too much and end up with rubbish footage. I do use 60fps, which has the down side of chewing through battery faster which is the source of the above problems with battery life I mentioned. However, I believe it is better if you ever want to do slow motion to have those extra frames. I use slow mo in 'still shots' such as in the above video on the fiddler ray or the nudibranch to try and accomodate camera shake. Apart from 60fps I think all the other settings are pretty standard.

I did use GoPro studio for the above. I feel it's a little clunky but it gets the job done. The main downside is no image stabilisation which I'm sure would improve the final a bucketload. But every time I go to research different video editing software it all looks expensive or a lot to learn so I end up just doing a quick cut in GoPro Studio to get the job done. I'll probably move on to something better another time but this is just a side hobby and I don't have too much time to dedicate to video editing. If anyone has any edit recommendations I'd love to hear them!

I'm not sure on your skill level, but my first few videos were 90% rubbish. Here are some personal tips that I'll add, that I'm by no means an expert but things I'm constantly trying to think of and remind myself:
- Firstly, diving safety is rule #1. It's easy to ignore bouency adjustments or even drips in masks when there is a chance at a 'killer shot', or get carried away filming something and lose track of your buddy etc. My diving instructor told me "How do you make an excellent diver a horrible one? Give them a camera." And it has a lot of truth. If I need to I'll drop my camera (it's on a strap) and focus on diving.
- Steady: Perfect bouvency, slow breathing, really do your best on steady movements with the camera. Slow pans, avoid jerky/fast movements or things like looking down while swimming - its vomit inducing watching that stuff.
- Frame your shot: With no viewer my biggest problem was I was constantly cutting off subjects, mostly aiming too high and the subject would be half cut off at the bottom of the screen. Think about the subject, the angle of the camera and try to aim it up as best as possible.
- Filter: For me my filter flips on and off, so I have to remember to flip it on lower than 6m or flip it off above 6m.
- Fish bums are boring: Seeing something and chasing it makes for boring shots (not to mention harrasses the animals). Anticipate where creatures are going and try to be near where they are heading, then focus on being still and calm, this can make for good shots. Looking directly down at things can be boring as well, try to get down to their level. For example a wobbegong sleeping on the bottom I try my best to get the camera right on the floor or resting on a rocky edge to help steady the shot and be down low. Sometimes I just calmly film an interesting piece of rocky area and stay calm and might be lucky enough to have some creatures swim past perfecting the shot (other times nothing might happen) :-) if the group is moving along slowly enough or looking at other things there can be the chance to take these shots.
- Be careful shooting the sun: I've had issues shooting up, or towards sunlight coming down through the water, and it like throws the GoPro's white detection out or something, and then like for the next 10min the colours are messed up or overly red. I haven't quite nailed what happens here or how to avoid it but just an observation. It usually always happens closer to the surface or with sunshine around. This usually would happen because I would look at the front of the camera (accidentally shooting up at my face) to check if it was filming or not / or how much battery left). But with the battery back door it has a light on the back so I can now avoid this as well (another benefit!).

Anyway, some tips for now. By no means have I perfected ~any~ of the above, but just some things I have picked up from critically looking at my own horrible footage over time :-) Hope this helps! Let me know if you have further questions!

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2 years 6 months ago #301444 by watsea
watsea replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Michael,
I have bought the Backscatter flip Macro lens as well. I find it is great. I thinking about getting the 10 to 1 lens as well.

Nice video of Broughton Is Looking Glass site.
I was wondering, in the video, the short clips of yourself, underwater and on the surface, are mirror imaged. Any reasoning or just an accident?
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2 years 6 months ago #301458 by mulgar
mulgar replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Thanks for sharing watsea. I just checked their website those macro lenses look amazing! I didn't realise that could be done. Do you have any sample footage which has worked okay using them? Also, maybe I'm looking at it wrong but can you use the filter and the macro lense at the same time on the same Flip system or only one can be 'active' at a time (meaning if macro lense is down then red filter is not active)?

Now you made me think about getting new diving toys when I was just happy with what I had :-P

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2 years 6 months ago #301459 by watsea
watsea replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Michael,
For what I received from Backscatter, I can have two attachments on my GoPro at any one time.
I use the lighter filter and the macro on two separate hinges but they cannot be folded over the camera lens simultaneously (unless I set it up incorrectly).

I use a single video light, (two would better of course) and I have to be careful I do not blow out the whites if I am using the video light and the macro. I am getting better through to determine when to use the light or not. When using the macro, the distance of the subject to the lens is 110mm apprrox.

My wife has edited some of my videos and put some on her Facebook.. I will try to get a link and put it through on another post.

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2 years 6 months ago #301460 by mulgar
mulgar replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Thanks for sharing watsea! Okay I see having the lights will probably help, does that negate the need to have a red filter when shooting with the light? Sorry if this is obvious question I am pretty new to this.

Look forward to seeing some of the video hope it isn't too much trouble! I wish my wife edited my videos :-) I do find that part of it a bit tedious...

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2 years 6 months ago - 2 years 6 months ago #301465 by Minkyd
Minkyd replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
www.facebook.com/deb.aston.7/videos/1015...=3906161605360693992
Watsea's video of a blue ring octopus

Permissions now fixed so you should be able to see video.
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2 years 6 months ago #301466 by watsea
watsea replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Michael,
In previous post, MInkyd put a link to the Facebook with video done at The Pipe at Nelson Bay. .Ta.
I used the Macro and light for this one. Depending on available light, I use the light for Macro but as said before use low power to avoid blowing out any whites or light colours.

For many cases at depth and without the Macro, I use the light and the filter together as I think it gives more colour to sea or critters in the foreground of the scene. Some folk prefer otherwise.

The older video footage have done using a GoPro Hero 2 without filter. Had flooding incident with that GoPro and replaced with a Hero 3 when I bought the filter and Macro.

Also added another link for some more older videos.
www.youtube.com/channel/UCb1jjyz2vDiVC8cqaCif12g

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2 years 6 months ago #301467 by mulgar
mulgar replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Some great videos thanks for sharing! Love the seals and the weedy sea dragon as well!

Sorry the FB video link wasn't working for me, I think it might be set to 'friends only' or something as it said I didn't have permission, you might have to set it to public. But anyway thanks for sharing the other vids looks like you guys have done some awesome diving!

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2 years 6 months ago #301475 by Murph68
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Couldn't resist to share my crappy video :sick:

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2 years 6 months ago #301476 by watsea
watsea replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Murph,
Yes pretty good washing machine.

Michael,
Minkyd fixed Facebook permissions.


Regards.
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2 years 6 months ago #301478 by mulgar
mulgar replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Thanks for sharing guys! Some great footage! watsea - doesn't blue rings = angry Octopus or does it happen regularly as more of a warning or feeling threatened rather than being very dangerous? Never managed to see an octopus yet or when they are seen during a dive I'm on I always tend to be the one who missed it :-/

Murph68 - love the video! Yeah the colours at depth are a little washed out but it's still great footage! Those cuttlefish were extremely curious I've only ever managed to see them in hidey holes, but that was great to get two in the one shot! That safety stop looked a little intense!!! Must have been a long 3 minutes!

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2 years 6 months ago #301481 by AB
AB replied the topic: Broughton Island, April 2015
Yes that safety stop was a bit surgy. Having done similar stops in turbulent water I tend not to hang onto the substrate but rather just roll with it in open water. Less chance of damage to equipment or injuries .

Alan

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